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[04:20]<+camerongray> Oh I love db's random apperances!
[04:20]<@BC_Programming> heh
[04:20]<+camerongray> He even said something! It didn't make sense, but it's a start :P
[04:21]<@BC_Programming> seems like a barely coherent attempt at an insult or something
[04:21]<+camerongray> Hmm, maybe
[04:28]<PCdoc> when did db come?
[04:28]<PCdoc> lol I don't see his incomings ...
[04:28]<PCdoc> :P
[04:32]<+camerongray> You weren't here
[04:34]<PCdoc> hmmm
[04:35]<PCdoc> This Microsoft outlook pst file takes a hell lot of hours to repair using scanpst. I started yesterday at around 7pm and had to pause it at 11pm because I had to go home. Now have again re-started
[04:35]<PCdoc> It's taking forever
[04:44]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah - That's the sort of stuff I run overnight
[04:55]<jamer> So camerongray.. Its gameday for me XD
[04:59]<PCdoc> Today you are Gamer from Jamer
[05:00]<PCdoc> j/k
[05:01]<jamer> I know lol
[05:01]<jamer> Im bringing in my kerbal space program
[05:09]<+camerongray> lol - we don't have "game days" at uni - We go to do actual work :P
[05:13]<jamer> We get these only once in a great while
[05:14]<+camerongray> Even then - I'm kinda glad we don't have them as I can;t be bothered with games :P
[05:14]<+camerongray> I'd just stay at home
[05:14]<+camerongray> At uni we have "societies" though which do things outside of regular uni time - There is a game one
[05:15]<@BC_Programming> Let's see if I can not shave all month This month
[05:16]<+camerongray> Oh, is Movember a thing in Canada too?
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> I won't last a week
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> It's an internet thing so it's everywhere :P
[05:23]<+camerongray> ahh
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[06:09]<+camerongray> hey jacky
[06:09]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello :)
[06:10]<@BC_Programming> jacky:db visited us. It was exciting. He even said something
[06:10]<@jacky> heheheh
[06:10]<@jacky> I forgot about that
[06:10]<@jacky> was he greeted?
[06:11]<@BC_Programming> yep
[06:11]<@BC_Programming> then he told Magiobiwan there was nothing interesting here either and left
[06:11]<+camerongray> jacky: Did you hear about my new monitors?
[06:11]<@jacky> was he offended, or did he realize it is a joke?
[06:11]<@jacky> camerongray: you have lizards?
[06:11]<+camerongray> lol!
[06:11]<@BC_Programming> haha!
[06:11]<@jacky> <g>
[06:11]<+camerongray> Just worked out that ONE of my new ones has more pixels than the 3 monitors on my desk at work put together :D
[06:12]<@jacky> BC_Programming: somebody needs something better to do with their time....
[06:12]<+camerongray> haah
[06:12]<@jacky> camerongray: seriously... how big IS that thing?
[06:12]<+camerongray> 27"
[06:12]<+camerongray> Resolution - 2560x1440
[06:12]<@jacky> whew
[06:12]<+camerongray> (x2) :P
[06:12]<@jacky> what is x2 ?
[06:12]<@BC_Programming> your vertical resolution is my horizontal resolution on a single monitor
[06:12]<+camerongray> Calum is a bad influence
[06:13]<+camerongray> Two of them :P
[06:13]<@jacky> wow
[06:13]<@jacky> brand spanking new?
[06:13]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:13]<@jacky> that set you back
[06:13]<+camerongray> Yeah - mine at work is 1440x900
[06:13]<@BC_Programming> remember when 640x480 was considered high-resolution?
[06:13]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[06:13]<@jacky> connected to one computer? or two?
[06:13]<+camerongray> one
[06:13]<@BC_Programming> it's for important business
[06:13]<+camerongray> I was just going to get a third 1920x1200 but would need to get a new graphics card to support 3 monitors
[06:13]<@jacky> BC_Programming: interlaced or non-interlaced was something to watch for?
[06:14]<@jacky> <&BC_Programming> it's for important business <<< H,H,H,HD porn?
[06:14]<+camerongray> haha!
[06:14]<@jacky> hehehe
[06:14]<@BC_Programming> jacky: yeah for the higher resolutions... I remember, the 8514/a IBM adapter had 1024x768, but it was 43 hertz
[06:14]<+camerongray> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/v/908866_780051835355292_238500055_n.jpg?oh=63650aec7c43b3d2dd6fd2d95d555fd6&oe=527587C1&__gda__=1383493424_78bbacbad40a0b2672f7cce531c71895
[06:15]<+camerongray> lol
[06:15]<@BC_Programming> that was back when every single program had to have their own code/drivers to access the video adapter
[06:15]<@jacky> camerongray: they make vid cards to run three monitors??
[06:15]<+camerongray> They make ones that run 6+ :P
[06:15]<@jacky> BC_Programming: yes. pre-Windoze
[06:15]<+camerongray> Mine can only do two though :(
[06:15]<@jacky> "only", he says
[06:16]<+camerongray> haha - Sure yours can do at least two
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> Matrox makes the best 2-D graphics cards as far as I'm aware- as well as more monitors
[06:16]<@jacky> when will they come out with one that just feeds it right to your brain? you know... have the doc wire a port into the back of your head
[06:16]<@jacky> better yet, implant blue tooth at birth
[06:16]<@jacky> sigh...
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> that's in the testing phases
[06:16]<+camerongray> It's the same panel as the 27" Dell Ultrasharp or Apple Thunderbolt display but a lot cheaper
[06:16]<+camerongray> Calum has the same panel as well
[06:17]<@BC_Programming> the technology had a few minor issues, such as people's heads exploding
[06:17]<+camerongray> haha
[06:17]<@jacky> camerongray: is that link a pic of your set up?
[06:17]<@jacky> panel?
[06:17]<@BC_Programming> they wanted to put a label on it but apparently that's not good enough for those safety nuts in control of consumer appliances
[06:17]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:17]<@BC_Programming> "May cause random extreme cranial deconstruction"
[06:17]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Based on the number of computers we have in the organisation, Matrox are terrible, the best video card is clearly a Gigabyte made by GeForce
[06:17]<@jacky> BC_Programming: can you believe it? and here we are, over populated anyway....
[06:18]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: well put... I thought you were serious for the first sentence
[06:18]<@jacky> camerongray: doesn't your computer have a backspace key? (I can see the White-out on the screen)
[06:18]<@jacky> :)
[06:21]<@BC_Programming> the trouble with high-resolution screens is finding wallpapers. But don't worry, I've got you covered- 2880x1800
[06:21]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.deviantart.com/art/Blue-Darkness-Swirl-316772510
[06:21]<+camerongray> lol!
[06:21]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.deviantart.com/art/Rainbow-Radial-Background-320411859
[06:21]<@BC_Programming> You laugh but you know it's true
[06:22]<@BC_Programming> those are pony free of course
[06:22]<+camerongray> If I was serious then "Based on the computers we have in the organisation the Radeon 3450 is the best graphics card" :P
[06:22]<@BC_Programming> my 9800GT is apparently still high-end
[06:22]<@BC_Programming> Calum chose well it would seem
[06:23]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:23]<+camerongray> Your next purchase should be a monitor :P
[06:23]<+camerongray> You can get them really cheap from Korea
[06:23]<@BC_Programming> still waiting for my keyboard
[06:23]<@BC_Programming> in the tracking it says "Location: Canada"
[06:23]<@BC_Programming> because that totally narrows it down
[06:24]<@BC_Programming> I thought of an advantage to buying USB- I don't need to reboot :P
[06:24]<@jacky> BC_Programming: did you note camerongray's keyboard in that picture? It is really HD. HEAVY duty. looks like one of those that weighed about 18 pounds.
[06:25]<+camerongray> lol - It is
[06:25]<+camerongray> IBM Model M - 1986
[06:25]<+camerongray> Came with my IBM PC XT :P
[06:25]<@BC_Programming> Model M, my new Keyboard should be a similar weight and pretty much looks the same
[06:25]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:25]<@jacky> camerongray is a model 1992, aren't you?
[06:25]<@BC_Programming> made by the same dudes
[06:25]<+camerongray> 1994 :P
[06:26]<+camerongray> http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wb.htm - That's my monitor
[06:26]<@jacky> whew
[06:26]<+camerongray> According to DB the reason my keyboard is so heavy is that each key contains a transformer
[06:26]<@jacky> camerongray: can you find your monitors on www.newegg.com ? so I can relate?
[06:26]<@BC_Programming> I need to buy new monitors... I could afford them if I didn't keep giving ppl money afk
[06:26]<+camerongray> Hmm, probably don't sell it there
[06:26]<+camerongray> That one is UK made so doubt it's available in the US
[06:27]<@BC_Programming> it's starting to get a bit annoying- the actual rent is 950, there are four people here, so why the hell am I giving them 1200?
[06:27]<@BC_Programming> but I digress
[06:28]<+camerongray> By that logic it would be cheaper to get your own place :P
[06:28]<@BC_Programming> exactly... but thing is then they'd be screwed
[06:28]<+camerongray> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260111 is probably the closest you would get (Although mine is cheaper)
[06:28]<@jacky> camerongray: this WOULD make your keyboard heavy, of course. : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Polemount-singlephase-closeup.jpg/398px-Polemount-singlephase-closeup.jpg
[06:28]<+camerongray> haha :P
[06:29]<+camerongray> DB's flawless logic strikes again
[06:29]<@jacky> camerongray: but... it is DB... maybe he thinks this is under your keys: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVCESzY_Q1nlCmSRYy5Fevrd_00DcbIWYCUctGhwHpUpR-3DnS
[06:29]<@jacky> that could be it, huh?
[06:29]<@jacky> heheeheh
[06:29]<+camerongray> lol!
[06:29]<+camerongray> Tries to show off his knowledge when I'm talking about something that I'm really interested in so know a lot about
[06:29]<+camerongray> But then I'm "wrong"
[06:30]<@BC_Programming> Windows workspace
[06:30]<@jacky> ok on newegg link... whew... $600 bucks each... ouch
[06:30]<+camerongray> Unless this "transformer" is the way the spring *transforms* from straight to bent :P
[06:30]<+camerongray> Mine was £410
[06:30]<+camerongray> !g 410gbp in usd
[06:30]<@jacky> I don't think google in bot will tranlate that anymore...
[06:30]<@jacky> rats
[06:31]<+camerongray> Oh - That "cheaper" comment didn't work there :P
[06:31]<+camerongray> The Dell must cost a lot more over here
[06:31]<@jacky> 410 British Pound Sterling equals
[06:31]<@jacky> 656.00 US Dollar
[06:31]<@jacky> heh
[06:31]<@BC_Programming> I'll probably just save and make a new build in one go, including the monitor
[06:31]<+camerongray> That Dell is about £600 here
[06:31]<+camerongray> Hmm yeah
[06:31]<@BC_Programming> 2K should cover both
[06:32]<+camerongray> Yeah - Easily
[06:32]<@BC_Programming> waaay more than enough really, would leave ~1500 just for the build
[06:32]<@jacky> (blowing off fingernails)... yeah... what's 2K?
[06:32]<+camerongray> hehe
[06:32]<@BC_Programming> yeah I'm a shady Coke dealer
[06:32]<@BC_Programming> I sell soda pop in Alleys
[06:32]<fileman> i have one of the simpler dells, u2412hm (1920x1200) for $300
[06:32]<fileman> that's the largest resolution my laptop can handle
[06:33]<@jacky> camerongray: if you sit too close, doesn't your neck get sore from swiveling left to right and back? I mean.. the things are so big....
[06:33]<@jacky> hehehehe
[06:33]<@jacky> I have a friend with a TV like that... it is so big... it actually bugs me
[06:34]<+camerongray> I was worried about that but never had an issue - I was already used to having a pair of 22" monitors so I turned a lot already
[06:34]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah - people that have massive TVs in tiny rooms
[06:34]<@jacky> even dumber... a regular sized room, with furniture and chairs placed so that you are too close to the huuuuuuge TV
[06:34]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[06:34]<+camerongray> My parents have a 42" plasma but it's quite far away
[06:35]<@jacky> I think this thing is close to 6 feet
[06:35]<+camerongray> wow!
[06:35]<@jacky> wait
[06:35]<@jacky> 5 feet
[06:35]<@jacky> soemthing like that
[06:35]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[06:35]<@jacky> I'll have to look closer, next time I'm there
[06:35]<+camerongray> My TV is just 22" but for movies I have a projector (£52 on eBay) that gives me a 3m diagonal screen
[06:35]<@BC_Programming> the TV in the living room is 61" diagonal
[06:36]<@jacky> do they do these new huuuuge flat screens on the diag, when they measure them?
[06:36]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:36]<@jacky> or straight across now a days?
[06:36]<+camerongray> Diagonal
[06:36]<@jacky> ok
[06:36]<@jacky> I've no idea then what his measures
[06:36]<@jacky> I was eyeballing it
[06:36]<@BC_Programming> which is why they prefer making them widescreen
[06:36]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:37]<+camerongray> The US seems to lag behind the UK with widescreen, for a while loads of US stuff was 4:3 when 16:9 was normal here
[06:37]<+camerongray> Big TVs are so cheap now it's insane
[06:38]<+camerongray> Like £300 for 42"
[06:38]<@BC_Programming> should be able to afford a nice build in a month or two
[06:38]<+camerongray> yay!
[06:38]<@jacky> <+camerongray> The US seems to lag behind the UK with widescreen, <<< they have to sell all the back stock, before they come out with something new, and promote it as "better"
[06:38]<@jacky> heheheeh
[06:38]<@BC_Programming> as long as I change my PIN
[06:38]<+camerongray> lol
[06:39]<+camerongray> Now - If you want to kill Calum - get MSI wherever you can, add a 1200w crappy power supply, AMD FX preferred, no SSD and add a closed loop liquid cooler
[06:39]<@BC_Programming> and a case pade entirely out of transparent plastic
[06:39]<@BC_Programming> made*
[06:39]<+camerongray> Oh yeah
[06:39]<+camerongray> Or NZXT
[06:40]<@BC_Programming> with a bunch of lights everywhere
[06:40]<+camerongray> lol
[06:40]<+camerongray> I have a light in mine, but it's a nice white one
[06:40]<+camerongray> Just lights up the inside so you can see it through the window
[06:40]<@BC_Programming> how do you know it's nice? did you speak to it's friends
[06:40]<+camerongray> haha
[06:41]<@BC_Programming> not a fan of case windows
[06:41]<@BC_Programming> I mean... it's not that exciting. "look, the fans are spinning and these lights are blinking, oooh exciting"
[06:41]<@BC_Programming> "And look, that capacitor has caught fire!"
[06:42]<+camerongray> haha
[06:42]<+camerongray> I like mine but the rest of the case is amazing as well
[06:42]<+camerongray> Corsair Obsidian 650D
[06:43]<@BC_Programming> I'll definitely get Calum to help come up with a build, I'm sure he'll be happy to help. If I went with the build I originally had for the PC I'm using now it would have been obsolete already and I would have paid a lot more
[06:44]<@BC_Programming> and I would have been using ATI/AMD which I'm not fond of purely because they have a terrible driver installation experience
[06:44]<+camerongray> ahh yeah
[06:44]<+camerongray> What was the original plan?
[06:44]<@BC_Programming> I haven't a clue, this was a few years ago
[06:45]<+camerongray> Ahh
[06:45]<@BC_Programming> actually it might be in a CH thread, let me see
[06:45]<@BC_Programming> Ah ha!
[06:45]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,87311.0/nowap.html
[06:46]<@BC_Programming> oh man
[06:46]<@BC_Programming> I would have only had 4GB also
[06:46]<@BC_Programming> and a WD Green... such a fool I was
[06:50]<@BC_Programming> actually looks like over the course of the thread we revise the build a few times, particularly when it turns out Newegg refuses to ship to me
[06:52]<@BC_Programming> have I mentioned how ridiculous this outsourced code is?
[06:53]<@BC_Programming> to access resources you are supposed to use Resources.ProjectName.ResourceName, pretty simple
[06:53]<@BC_Programming> whoever did this however opens the design time file using a ResXReader and manually searches through the dictionary of name/value pairs to find the resource it wants...
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> my favourite is this- 'if(value==true) checkbox=true; else checkbox=false;'
[07:28]<+Craig> Hey BC
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> hey Craig
[07:28]<+Craig> Man, am I ever tired. :(
[07:28]<+Craig> and I have to go to work in an hour...
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> I can see why these Freelancers only got $3/$4 an hour
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> They suck. That is why
[07:31]<+Craig> Hahahahahha
[07:31]<@BC_Programming> the part where nothing works except in the IDE is a nice touch
[07:31]<+Craig> :P
[07:32]<@BC_Programming> "hey let's access design-time files that won't exist once the program is deployed, what could possibly go wrong"
[07:32]<+Craig> Why are you looking at freelance stuff again?
[07:32]<@BC_Programming> Before they decided to hire new folks they tried to get some stuff done through ELance, around March of 2012
[07:33]<+Craig> :P
[07:33]<@BC_Programming> basically I have to integrate all the stuff from ELance into our SVN, and make sure it at least runs
[07:33]<+Craig> ... sounds tiring...
[07:34]<@BC_Programming> it's quite ego-boosting
[07:34]<@BC_Programming> One of the programs had a breakpoint set, which would stop the program once it hit that line
[07:34]<+Craig> Really? What for?
[07:34]<@BC_Programming> it was because they were tracking down a bug- coincidentally the resource they were trying to access was misspelled
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> I ripped out absolutely everything they did for resources- they were trying to access design-time resource files- the very same files that are compiled into the EXE and should be accessed with standard Resource stuff
[07:36]<@BC_Programming> Basically I replaced this entire segment of "load in Resource file->look for name of resource we want->Close resource file" with one expression
[07:36]<@BC_Programming> and then there were forms filled with Radio buttons and labels
[07:36]<@BC_Programming> the label has an On/off condition, like "Allow Clerk override" and then two yes/no radiobuttons
[07:37]<@BC_Programming> and I just shook my head and replaced them all with checkboxes
[07:37]<+Craig> Hahahahahahaha
[07:37]<@BC_Programming> oh I may have changed some of the strings, like "SURE YOU WANT DELETE RECORD!"
[07:38]<+Craig> Is that supposed to be a question?
[07:39]<@BC_Programming> it's a confirm prompt yes
[07:39]<@BC_Programming> most of the strings were in broken english. Half of them had no punctuation and the other half had the wrong punctuation, and a good portion were entirely in caps
[07:40]<+Craig> Wow
[07:40]<@BC_Programming> Needless to say I don't think we'll be using ELance again
[07:40]<@BC_Programming> or at least not Offshored developers
[07:41]<+Craig> :P
[07:41]<@BC_Programming> one of the other devs said it was a bad idea from the beginning
[07:41]<@BC_Programming> I get to tell him he can tell everybody "I told you so"
[07:42]<@BC_Programming> I like this line of code too "ResXReader.Close() //Close the ResxReader
[07:42]<@BC_Programming> thank goodness for that comment, would have never guessed
[07:57]<+camerongray> lol!
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[08:40]<PCdoc> hi db100547
[08:40]<db100547> howdy
[08:41]<PCdoc> Whats up?
[08:42]<db100547> PCdoc: not much . every just seems quiet , so looking to see if 'amyware' is busy
[08:42]<db100547> *anywhere*
[08:43]<db100547> been a bit of a long night,
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[08:44]<@BC_Programming> enthralling
[08:48]<PCdoc> looking to see if anywhere is busy?
[08:48]<PCdoc> I think he meant anyone
[08:51]<@jacky> 4 minutes
[08:51]<@jacky> might be a record
[08:51]<@BC_Programming> still managed to typo
[08:51]<@jacky> you sure?
[08:52]<@jacky> could be Malware, by Amy
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> he must have been reading the manual to his sexbot when he said "amyware"
[08:52]<@jacky> should Chanbot change to, "Sexbot is here" for a greeting?
[08:52]<@jacky> heh
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> heh db joins, "ChanbotVII is now known as AmyBot" and back again when he leaves
[08:53]<PCdoc> He won't understand
[08:53]<@jacky> if the humor would not be lost, it would be worth it
[08:53]<@jacky> exactly
[08:53]<@jacky> heh
[08:54]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc: that makes it funnier for us though
[08:54]<@jacky> heh
[08:54]<PCdoc> It would be more fun if he also understands. Fun for us, sarcasm for him
[08:54]<@jacky> I wonder though... if Chanbot kept track of total in channel time, and announced it
[08:54]<@jacky> better yet... an average length of stay!
[08:54]<@jacky> hehe
[08:55]<@BC_Programming> or here's something, change the welcome announcement for db, make it say "Mr.Janitor" instead of his nick
[08:55]<@jacky> now, now
[08:55]<@jacky> hehe
[08:55]<@jacky> can you prove that?
[08:55]<@jacky> hehe
[08:55]<PCdoc> or "Don't be in a hurry, you make so many typos. Calm down and type" :P
[08:56]<@BC_Programming> No no PCDoc, don't you know his story? Apparently he used Mainframes
[08:56]<PCdoc> oh
[08:56]<@BC_Programming> which apparently now cause him to type like that... which makes no sense since no Mainframe system I've used or seen has syntax requirements involving spacing around punctuation
[08:56]<PCdoc> He used so many things ..
[08:57]<Magiobiwan> Spacing is lame
[08:57]<PCdoc> May be DB stands for something like Dreaming Boy
[08:57]<Magiobiwan> Whoneedsspacesintheirtyping
[08:57]<Magiobiwan> itssuchawasteoftime
[08:57]<Magiobiwan> youcantypesomuchfasterwithoutthem
[08:58]<PCdoc> With the habbit, even if you want, you won't be able to type without spaces. At the end, you may see you have added spaces as usual and now have to manually remove them before pressing enter
[08:59]<PCdoc> !seen amyware
[09:00]<PCdoc> so looking to see if 'amyware' is busy << as if amyware is some nickname
[09:00]<PCdoc> !seen db100547
[09:00]<@BC_Programming> no, his keyboard has transformers so it can be tricky to use
[09:01]<@BC_Programming> Like Craig I'm sleepy... unlike Craig it's 8AM for me and I've finished the days WO so yay
[09:02]<PCdoc> I remember in my school there was a teacher who taught is so many wrong things. Later he wa fired when students complained. He said "In Mechanical keyboard, every key has a transistor under it. If any key stops working, change the transistor and the key works again"
[09:02]<PCdoc> taught us so many *
[09:03]<@BC_Programming> That's like a blind man teaching a robot to paint
[09:04]<PCdoc> His another popular one was "In ink jet printer, the paper goes from inside of the ink cartridge, image is printed on the paper and the paper comes out of the cartridge heads"
[09:04]<PCdoc> The printer repair guy in practicals almost pulled his hair
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> hmm his methods seem similar to dbs actually
[09:05]<PCdoc> hehehe
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> "If you don't know, make something up and call alternatives BS"
[09:06]<PCdoc> I sometimes feel db is a sales person in real life. A sales person sometimes is used to make things up on the spot. So the other guy does not come to know that the sales person is dumb
[09:06]<@BC_Programming> Unless they know what is being said is absolute nonsense, of course
[09:07]<PCdoc> hehe they know it. But they don't want to act dumb
[09:07]<PCdoc> Don't know about db though
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> well yeah that seems to be how he works as well
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> makes stuff up on the spot, and most people don't go "I've never heard of that" they just follow along
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> eg. the "Windows Workspace" comment, everybody else seemed fine with it
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> I was the only one that basically said that was complete nonsense, then I explained what was REALLY happening
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> and he said "That's BS"
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> Well he sure showed me huh
[09:10]<@jacky> that's like "Trolling 401"
[09:10]<PCdoc> heh
[09:10]<@jacky> upper level course
[09:12]<PCdoc> You can't even make out that what he is talking is non sense unless you yourself is educated about that topic. You will finally believe him if you are listening for the first time.
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> yes being edumacated helps
[09:14]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Is yoo bee ?
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> I so bee edumacated I have a stinger
[09:16]<@jacky> I thunkded yoo am
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[11:09]<+camerongray> Our computing teacher was like that
[11:53]<+camerongray> BC, you there?
[12:08]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: ping
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[13:03]<+Craig> Hey BC, could you imagine a keyboard that runs off of inducers? I think it would last a very long time since none of the parts that make the flow would wear down. :) What do you think?
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[15:05]<@BC_Programming> keyboard arrived :D
[15:12]<+camerongray> It is awesome?
[15:13]<+camerongray> First task for your new keyboard - MC can't connect to the server
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> missing the Right side Alt keycap :/
[15:14]<+camerongray> Oh, sure it's not in the box?
[15:14]<+camerongray> They often ping off in transit
[15:15]<@BC_Programming> doesn't look like it
[15:15]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:15]<+camerongray> If you can't find it just fire an email to unicomp - Sure they will send one out
[15:15]<@BC_Programming> Oh wait found it yay
[15:15]<+camerongray> yay
[15:15]<+camerongray> I had hell when I got the XT
[15:15]<+camerongray> XT and model M so giant box full of packing peanuts - two keys had fallen off and got mixed in with the peanuts
[15:16]<+camerongray> Biggest cardboard cut of my life
[15:16]<+camerongray> I'm getting "Connection refused" when I try to connect to the MC server
[15:18]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[15:18]<@BC_Programming> java isn't running for some reason
[15:18]<+camerongray> Ahh - Might want to start it again :P
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> should be up in a few moments now
[15:19]<+camerongray> I joined but it kicked me off after a while - Think I killed it
[15:19]<+camerongray> YAY!
[15:19]<+camerongray> TIme to not get work done!
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> this thing is noisy.. awesome
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> Still have my old keyboard plugged in
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> just as I suspected... the editing block will take some adjustment... curse my old non-standard layout
[15:24]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[15:24]<+camerongray> Do you like it though?
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[15:25]<+camerongray> yay!
[15:25]<@BC_Programming> I knew it was going to be loud but it still managed to be louder than I expected, haha
[15:27]<+camerongray> haha
[15:27]<@BC_Programming> Now I should replace my mouse too
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> it keeps disconnecting for some reason though :/
[15:31]<+camerongray> Oops - I accidentally harvested your sugar cane - I've put it in the chest next to the farm
[15:31]<+camerongray> Do you have a bed?
[15:31]<@BC_Programming> how do you know it's my house?
[15:31]<+camerongray> lol
[15:31]<@BC_Programming> my sugar cane is inside and has a piston thing... or did you hit the switch?
[15:32]<+camerongray> Yeah - I fiddled with it :P
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> The bed is upstairs, there is a spruce log in the middle of the main room going to the loft
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> be wary however as I once had a creeper up there
[15:32]<+camerongray> Ahh - thanks
[15:34]<+camerongray> Did you mine all this?
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> yes
[15:34]<+camerongray> Wow!
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> what are you looking at?
[15:34]<+camerongray> Everything :P
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:34]<+camerongray> And that bridge - Is it made of iron
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> Quartz
[15:35]<+camerongray> Ahh - Not played in ages
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> That tied in nicely since Nether Quartz is like the best source of Experience points for enchanting
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> I've made use of stained glass also heh
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> doesn't matter if there is any colour matching I just choose a colour and smack it down
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> like pink and black for that upstairs overhang
[15:51]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: It's crashed again
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> last msg is you "moved wrongly" or something
[15:53]<+camerongray> lol!
[15:53]<+camerongray> I died
[15:53]<+camerongray> And now I've lost all my wood
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> should be restarted now
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> though don't know how long it will last this time either
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> well this is great... now the keyboard isn't recognized at all
[15:57]<+camerongray> thanks
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> as in no USB device at all is detected
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> either on my desktop or my laptop
[15:57]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> well that was totally worth the 10 minutes I got to use it
[15:57]<+camerongray> That's not good :P
[15:57]<+camerongray> Loose cable?
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> I'd take it apart but it's held together by faceless screws
[15:58]<+camerongray> Ahh, push the cable into the case?
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> nope
[16:01]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[16:02]<@BC_Programming> I'd think my wireless mouse is interfering since technically the receiver adds a USB mouse and a USB keyboard
[16:02]<+camerongray> Hmm, does it work without that?
[16:02]<@BC_Programming> but it should still be detected
[16:02]<@BC_Programming> doesn't work on my laptop either
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> Oh, I see
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> It's fried my entire root hub
[16:09]<@BC_Programming> hmm except I still have internet
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[16:13]<@BC_Programming> well I managed to get it to fail to install
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> seems loose inside
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> of course if they used FECKING SCREWS I might be able to fix their f*ck up but no
[16:15]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:15]<+camerongray> You can get a driver for them on eBay though for a couple of $
[16:15]<@BC_Programming> if I shove the cord in really hard and it's upside down it works
[16:15]<@BC_Programming> This has NOTHING to do with drivers
[16:16]<+camerongray> Meaning a screwdriver type thing to open it :P
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> faceless screws?
[16:16]<+camerongray> Isn't it a nut type thing?
[16:16]<+camerongray> Like hexagonal
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> ok so It's connected
[16:17]<@BC_Programming> now let's see if I turn turn it upside-up and put it where this keyboard is without it disconnecting
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> nope
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> oh wait now it's reconnected again
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> sigh
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> aaand it's gone
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> now it's back... now it's gone
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> and it's back... and it's gone
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> Ok OK... lets see if this holds up
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> I jammed the cord in and then attached it to the little side holder piece
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> now to try to move the other end of the cord to the back ports again
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> this is a bad idea
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> Alright that appears to have worked
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> but I'm definitely keeping my PS/2 connected...
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> I guess I need to get a bit so I can open this up anbd fix it proper
[16:30]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:32]<@BC_Programming> honestly starting to regret this purchase... I'll be using my old keyboard by the end of the day if this disconnect dance keeps up
[16:32]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:32]<+camerongray> It's a great keyboard - They do just sometimes have faults when they are made
[16:33]<@BC_Programming> well my logic is- I paid 20 dollars for my old keyboard and it's worked for over 7 years or so, I paid 4 times as much for this one and have to fight it to get it recognized
[16:34]<@BC_Programming> I'd be slightly less annoyed if they didn't use faceless nut screws
[16:35]<@BC_Programming> was hoping that the holder piece keeping the area where it goes into the keyboard more or less stationary/static might work, but it's disconnected since :( I'm probably going to try to get it open without the proper bit by using needle-nose pliers or something
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> well seems to be holding
[16:43]<@BC_Programming> It has a good excuse though I think "It's my first day"
[16:44]<+camerongray> lol
[16:44]<@BC_Programming> manufacturered October 14th 2013
[16:44]<@BC_Programming> manufactured*
[16:44]<+camerongray> Nice!
[16:45]<@BC_Programming> yeah that was the day after I ordered it so it seems like they manufacture to order
[16:45]<+camerongray> Yeah, they usually do
[16:46]<@BC_Programming> at least the issue seems to be something I can fix once I get inside the case, hopefully just a loose connector inside the case
[20:18]<jamer> hm .. ive got my own minecraft and teamspeak server running
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